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What your MRR is really worth: an AI margin calculator · ...
ermantrout · 2026-06-24 · via Hacker News: Show HN

The Study · a directional estimator

What you actually keep

The MRR screenshot is the most shared number in indie AI and the least useful. Revenue is what they pay you. Income is what is left after the model bill, the card fees, the refunds, the tax you are only holding, and the people who quietly leave. Put your numbers in. See the real one. It is the math from the economics piece, made clickable.

Your numbers

Monthly price

What one customer pays you per month.

$

Paying customers

How many are subscribed right now.

Model you build on

Sets a rough blended token price. Edit the number below if you know your real blend.

Blended token price

Auto-set by your model. Directional, last set Jun 2026.

$/ M tok

Tokens per user / month

Millions of tokens an average user burns.

M tok

Monthly churn

Share of customers who leave each month.

%

Sales on international cards

Higher card fees plus currency conversion.

%

Sales tax / VAT you remit

Set 0 if it is added on top and is not your liability.

%

The screenshot, minus everything

Gross MRR $10,000

You keep $3,260

That is 33% of the number you would screenshot.

Gross revenueprice × paying customers $10,000

Token billyour metered cost of goods − $5,000

Card feesprocessing, international, conversion − $540

Failed paymentsexpired and declined cards, no dunning − $900

Refunds and disputesreversed sales keep their fee, chargebacks − $300

Tax you remitflows through, flows back out − $0

What you actually keep $3,260

Per customer, you keep $6.52 of the $20.00 they pay. At 6.1% monthly churn, you replace about 31 customers a month just to stand still.

Your token cost is above your price. A user this heavy costs you more than they pay. A flat fee on a metered cost only works if you cap the heavy tail with rate limits.

These are starting points from the research, not your receipts. Change any of them to your real number, that is the point.

  • Failed payments % of gross treated as uncollected, the midpoint of common dunning-loss estimates. Baremetrics
  • Refunds and disputes % of gross since a reversed sale keeps its processing fee and a chargeback carries a flat cost. Stripe
  • Card fees 2.9% plus $0.30 domestic, rising toward 5.4% on the international share you set, plus a small conversion slice. Computed, not editable. Stripe
  • Token cost your tokens per user times the blended price you set. Real bills move with the input and output mix and with caching, and inference keeps falling, so treat it as directional, not a quote. Epoch AI
  • One month a snapshot of your current base. It is built to show the gap between gross and kept, not to file your taxes.

The token bill is the margin you do not have.

Mature SaaS runs at 70 to 80% gross margin because hosting amortizes toward zero. AI does the opposite: every query is metered, so inference becomes the dominant cost at scale. Industry AI gross margins sit near 52%, not 80%.

Cheap and self-serve is where churn is worst.

Products under $25 a month churn around 6.1% monthly, roughly half the base in a year. Over $250 a month, retention jumps near 70%. For most solo AI products the move is up-market, not more users.

The cheapest income is the income you already earned.

Failed and declined cards are 20 to 40% of all churn, and around 9% of MRR can simply fail to collect. Dunning, the automated retries and card-update nudges, claws it back with zero new customers.

Numbers are directional, not financial advice.