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Contributor Poker and Zig's AI Ban
spiffyk · 2026-04-29 · via Hacker News - Newest: "AI"

During my tenure at the Zig Software Foundation I’m having the opportunity to learn many interesting things about software. The one I want to share today is a key piece of understanding for any open source project big enough to attract contributors.

Open source development comes with a nuanced set of pros and cons, and it’s up to you to leverage the good that comes from it in order to compensate for having to deal with the bad, of which there’s plenty.

First and foremost, open source is incompatible with many business models and it’s based on the idea that you have to give away something of value for free. Of course in exchange for giving stuff out for free, you also get stuff for free, mostly in the form of code contributions.

Unfortunately not only do those contributions (let’s call them PRs from now on) not pay the bills, they themselves are often a source of extra labor and friction. In fact it’s pretty common that it would take a maintainer less effort to implement a given change directly, rather than work with a PR author to get their code to a mergeable state.

Based on what I mentioned so far, open source development seems a pretty shitty deal, and yet I firmly believe it has the potential to produce higher quality products and for significantly cheaper than most alternative development models; you just have to get good at the open source game. I’ve already written on the subject in general, but today I’ll focus on one specific aspect: contributor poker.

Contributor poker

In successful open source projects you eventually reach a point where you start getting more PRs than what you’re capable of processing. Given what I mentioned so far, it would make sense to stop accepting imperfect PRs in order to maximize ROI from your work, but that’s not what we do in the Zig project. Instead, we try our best to help new contributors to get their work in, even if they need some help getting there. We don’t do this just because it’s the “right” thing to do, but also because it’s the smart thing to do.

Contributing to an open source project is an iterated game and the majority of the value that a contributor can bring to a project lies in the later iterations. In other words, you initially invest some energy (i.e. place a bet) to onboard a new contributor, and you hope that later on that relationship starts paying you back as the contributor becomes more trusted and prolific.

The reason I call it “contributor poker” is because, just like people say about the actual card game, “you play the person, not the cards”. In contributor poker, you bet on the contributor, not on the contents of their first PR.

Having an explicit understanding of this dynamic has netted the Zig project a huge amount of value over time. Building a compiler toolchain from the ground up is a huge scope that would have been impossible to cover without significant help from contributors.

Thanks to contributors like Ryan Liptak Zig users can now enjoy the luxury of setting the executable icon (and more) on Windows because Zig can compile Windows resource script (.rc) files.

Another notable example are the contributions from Frank Denis. I wouldn’t even know where to begin to give a monetary value to the work he has done in std.crypto.

Growing pains

In the early days of Zig it was possible to invest on every new contributor, but now the project has grown to the point where the amount of incoming PRs far exceeds the amount of energy core contributors have at their disposal to play contributor poker.

In practice this means that there have been instances of good PRs that have gone un-reviewed for extended periods of time, potentially causing valuable contributors to lose interest in contributing to Zig.

This is something we have mentioned in our yearly financial reports, and more importantly it’s an issue we’re actively aware of, and that we hope to solve (or at least mitigate) in the future.

Unfortunately, not only is this an inherently hard problem to tackle, but AI has made things worse.

Banning AI contributions

There has been a lot of speculation about why the Zig project bans AI contributions, but now that you understand the importance of contributor poker, it’s easy to see why we do it.

To be able to provide impactful work a contributor needs to be familiar with the codebase and the problem space, and they need to be trusted by the core team to have thought through all the changes introduced by their PRs in order to strive for an optimal approach, rather than just submitting a random solution that happens to pass CI.

Additionally, as part of the process of becoming more trusted, contributors are expected to be responsible for the code they submit for a while more after their code is merged. Nobody is perfect and sometimes issues are discovered after the fact. Follow up discussions to decide how to course-correct are another example of the value of having an iterated relationship with engineers that have built significant insight on a given problem space.

This is important because users of Zig have in turn bet on the Zig Software Foundation to provide them with a language and toolchain that strives to be as good as we can make it.

Unfortunately the reality of LLM-based contributions has been mostly negative for us, from an increase in background noise due to worthless drive-by PRs full of hallucinations (that wouldn’t even compile, let alone pass CI), to insane 10 thousand line long first time PRs. In-between we also received plenty of PRs that looked fine on the surface, some of which explicitly claimed to not have made use of LLMs, but where follow-up discussions immediately made it clear that the author was sneakily consulting an LLM and regurgitating its mistake-filled replies to us.

To be clear, the point here is not to say that we believe that this is all that AI is. We don’t. This is clearly a misuse of the tool, but it is also what the overwhelming majority of LLM-based contributions looked like for our project.

So while one could in theory be a valid contributor that makes use of LLMs, from the perspective of contributor poker it’s simply irrational for us to bet on LLM users while there’s a huge pool of other contributors that don’t present this risk factor.

The people who remarked on how it’s impossible to know if a contribution comes from an LLM or not have completely missed the point of this policy and are clearly unaware of contributor poker.

For us the ability to provide contributors with an engaging ecosystem where they can improve their systems thinking and interact with other competent, trusted and prolific engineers is a critical aspect of our business model.

As I’ve mentioned before, Zig is able to punch well above its weight funding class because we put huge effort in thinking about technical, social and business management issues that surround the project.

Contributor poker is a key part of our strategy and it’s in the project’s best interest to push back against anything that hinders our ability to play the game effectively. That being said, we are aware that there are still many unresolved issues and we plan to adjust our policy as we gain more insight.

If you want to help us succeed, consider a small monthly donation to the Zig Software Foundation.