Scott Barron has released the second Ruby on Rails podcast. It sounds a whole lot better than the first and there’s an even more interesting guest on the show: Dave Thomas. Get the story about how Dave got to be a Pragmatic Programmer and how he got in Ruby. And of course the full lowdown on the new book, upcoming mini-books, and much more.

And of course, it has the latest news from the Rails work. Check it out, yo!